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Saturday, February 27, 2010

Depressive Realism - A More Accurate Worldview But Not Necessarily a Healthy One

While common supposition is that depression is a result of (or results in) people have an inaccurately negative viewpoint of themselves and/or life in general, Depressive Realism is the proposition that people with depression actually have a more accurate perception of reality, specifically that they are less affected by positive illusions of illusory superiority, the illusion of control and optimism bias.

Studies by psychologists Alloy and Abramson (1979) suggested that depressed people appear to have a more realistic perception of their importance, reputation, locus of control, and abilities than those who are not depressed. Especially noted was their "light-bulb" experiment, a part of their studies that consisted of depressed and non-depressed people being presented with a light-bulb and a button to press. Unknown to either group, the light bulb would go on and off independently of any pushes of the button - yet the depressed group far more accurately were able to discern this while a significant proportion of the non-depressed group felt they were exerting varying levels of control of the light bulb via the button they were pressing.

Dobson and Franche (1989) and later researchers have further supported this viewpoint with studies and similar experiments.

However...

"In recent decades, psychiatry has come to see rumination as a dangerous mental habit, because it leads people to fixate on their flaws and problems, thus extending their negative moods. Consider “The Depressed Person,” a short story by David Foster Wallace, which chronicles a consciousness in the grip of the ruminative cycle. (Wallace struggled with severe depression for years before committing suicide in 2008.) The story is a long lament, a portrait of a mind hating itself, filled with sentences like this: “What terms might be used to describe such a solipsistic, self-consumed, bottomless emotional vacuum and sponge as she now appeared to herself to be?” The dark thoughts of “The Depressed Person” soon grow tedious and trying, but that’s precisely Wallace’s point. There is nothing profound about depressive rumination. There is just a recursive loop of woe
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The bleakness of this thought process helps explain why, according to the Yale psychologist Susan Nolen-Hoeksema, people with “ruminative tendencies” are more likely to become depressed." (Quoted from Depressions Upside - New York Times)


Daniel Gilbert, the bestselling author of Stumbling On Happiness, sees things this way:

"What gets us through life, evidently, is just the right amount of delusion — enough to fool us into feeling relatively good about ourselves (...we all believe ourselves to be above average; 90 percent of drivers certainly do), but not so much as to exceed our own credulity. "If we were to experience the world exactly as it is, we'd be too depressed to get out of bed in the morning," Gilbert writes. "But if we were to experience the world exactly as we want it to be, we'd be too deluded to find our slippers."
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Interestingly, the clinically depressed seem less susceptible to these basic cognitive errors. For instance, healthy people can be deluded into greater happiness when granted the mere illusion of control over their environment; the clinically depressed recognize the illusion for what it is. All in all, it's yet more evidence that unhappy people have the more accurate view of reality — and that learning how to kid ourselves may be a key to mental health." (Quoted from Stumbling on Happiness by Daniel Gilbert - NY Times Book Review)


Bruce Weinberg's publishing on the subject:

"psychologists have found that moderate overconfidence is both pervasive and advantageous and that people maintain such beliefs by underweighting new information about their ability." (Quoted from A Model of Overconfidence by Bruce A. Weinberg - Abstract)


And a (semi-lengthy) article that sums up these concepts (although with a somewhat pessimistic slant):

"Most people think of the “mentally disordered” as a delusional lot, holding bizarre and irrational ideas about themselves and the world around them. Isn’t a mental disorder, after all, an impairment or a distortion in thought or perception? This is what we tend to think, and for most of modern psychology’s history, the experts have agreed; realistic perceptions have been considered essential to good mental health. More recently, however, research has arisen that challenges this common-sense notion.

In 1988, psychologists Shelly Taylor and Jonathon Brown published an article making the somewhat disturbing claim that positive self-deception is a normal and beneficial part of most people’s everyday outlook. They suggested that average people hold cognitive biases in three key areas: a) viewing themselves in unrealistically positive terms; b) believing they have more control over their environment than they actually do; and c) holding views about the future that are more positive than the evidence can justify. The typical person, it seems, depends on these happy delusions for the self-esteem needed to function through a normal day. It’s when the fantasies start to unravel that problems arise.

Studies into clinical depression have yielded similar findings, leading to the development of an intriguing, but still controversial, concept known as depressive realism. This theory puts forward the notion that depressed individuals actually have more realistic perceptions of their own image, importance, and abilities than the average person. While it’s still generally accepted that depressed people can be negatively biased in their interpretation of events and information, depressive realism suggests that they are often merely responding rationally to realities that the average person cheerfully denies.

Lear's Fool speaks of wisdom disguised as madness. Those with paranoid disorders can sometimes possess a certain unusual insight as well. It has often been asserted that within every delusional system, there exists a core of truth—and in their pursuit of imagined conspiracies against them, these individuals often show an exceptionally keen eye for the real thing. People who interact with them may be taken aback as they find themselves accused of harboring some negative opinion of the person which, secretly, they actually do hold. Complicating the issue, of course, is the fact that if the supposed aversion didn’t exist before, it likely does after such an unpleasant encounter.

As one might imagine, these issues present some problems when it comes to treatment. How does one convince a depressed person that “everything is all right” when her life really does suck? How does one convince an obsessive-compulsive patient to stop religiously washing his hands when the truth of what gets left behind after “normal” washing should be enough to make any sane person cringe? These problems put therapists in the curious position of teaching patients to develop irrational patterns of thinking—patterns that help them view the world as a rosier place than it really is. Counterintuitive as it sounds, it’s justified because what defines a mental disorder is not unreasonable or illogical thought, but abnormal behaviour that causes significant distress and impairs normal functioning in society. Treatment is about restoring a person to that level of normal functioning and satisfaction, even if it means building cognitions that aren’t precisely “rational” or “realistic.”

It’s a disconcerting concept. It’s certainly easier to think of the mentally disordered as lunatics running about with bizarre, inexplicable beliefs than to imagine them coping with a piece of reality that a “normal” person can’t handle. The notion that we routinely hide from the truth about ourselves and our world is not an appealing one, though it may help to explain the human tendency to ostracize the abnormal. Perhaps the reason we are so eager to reject any departure from this fiction we call “normality” is because we have grown dependent on our comfortable delusions; without them, there is nothing to insulate us from the harsh cold of reality." (Quoted from The Total Perspective Vortex)

While that last paragraph may hit a little too close towards the Albert Camus' existentialistic view of "the absurd" for my personal beliefs, I find myself thinking there may be some merit to much of the above. The irony seems to be that most modern psychologists agree that awareness of this may in fact be counterproductive in terms of treating depression.


How about dealing with depression in others?  See this post for my take on that and a little more about my personal experiences in dealing with depression myself.

8 comments:

  1. Anonymous9:07 PM

    Interesting thoughts and quotes, Nathan. From my perspective, all of these angles seem flawed, in that they all rely on the same basic principle; comparison. Whether one is comparing themselves to other people, comparing circumstances, weighing good against bad. Things are as they are. Fair is fair and unfair is unfair. So, in the end, doesn't it all boil down to the big, fat question, "Why?"

    The sooner we figure out that the answer is not arbitrary or blank, the sooner we can deal with fantasy and reality. Still, if we take the easy way out and conclude it's all for nothing, arbitrary or blank, then there is no solution, is there?

    The freedom and release comes in understanding you are here for a reason, no matter the circumstances, and that is reason enough to spend the rest of your life pursuing the reason, even if it is not easily discovered or understood.

    It's maybe easier to say that having a reason for being is Pollyanna, but I suppose that is up to you. I believe you have a reason for being, a good reason for being, and that's enough to endure any reality, good or bad, full or empty.

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  2. Just to clarify, I personally believe very strongly in love as a reason for being, among other things, nor do I agree with everything I have quoted. While certainly the reasoning in some of the above may be debatable, however, the experimental results I have found while researching this are pretty objective in and of themselves.

    As in many things, I find some interesting ideas that may not be altogether wholly accurate.I feel that the closed mind, however, fails to benefit from being able to glean some wheat from the chaff, so to speak.

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  3. Anonymous1:14 PM

    I agree. I am a realist. It is very discouraging to look at myself and see the bad I am especially capable of thinking, some of which turns into action. And I can see through just about anybody. It can also be very depressing to realize our impotence in certain circumstances. This is where, sometimes, artificial optimism may bolster others.

    I'm very, very grateful for my realist vision, though, but only because I have been given faith, something I could not take possession of on my own. This allows me to continue to struggle against the obvious (experiencing less self-deception) for the things I may not even be able to fully see, although God has given me enough vision to know it is there.

    I Corinthians 13:12 For now we see through a mirror in dimness, but then face to face. Now I know in part, but then I will fully know even as I also was fully known.

    I have confidence that what I am being formed to become is not what I am or what others are or what the world is. All of the things that make me literally weep in this life; whether from within me or via external forces; they are actually able to help me stay fixed on that vision.

    I get very depressed, myself, sometimes, but it is always, and I mean always in my case, directly related to my taking my eyes off of that vision, however dim it may now be. If my eyes are not looking, I cannot even see that which is nothing better than a dim vision, but of so great a promise, the dimness is overwhelming in its brightness when compared to all the realities I so easily perceive.

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  4. Anonymous4:28 PM

    I agree that depression takes away the lenses you normally see through. I believe the answer to 'why' is 'why not'. Depressed people are really good flaw-finders and can spot glitches in a problem presented to them - if they're bothered looking - when other people would miss them. I think depression makes us realise that there is no point to it all and that frees us. It makes us realise that our lives are our own to take or to live. The problem with living, though, is that you have to work through the limitations of reality. That's the conscious knowledge that non-depressed people are guarded against by their illusions. So they certainly are adaptive, allowing them to survive. So to get through to a depressed person, they need to face the choice of living or dying. If they decide to live, they have to be open to accepting illusion. There's a fear, though, that illusion will take over, as it often does with people. How many people actually realise their dreams? How many people get where they want to go? How many people who aren't depressed live consciously? How many live unstimulating lives that are in fact empty but that they decorate with niceties? How many friendships are real? The depressed person can see through all to the answers to these questions. That's if they direct their attention to those questions. And if they're not blinded by being in the darkness for too long. To anonymous above - I hope that goodbye was to the discussion and not what I thought of when I read your comment. Although I feel the same way. I think to live in normal reality as normal ('mentally healthy') people see it, there has to be a choice to accept illusion. It goes completely against science and reason, though! Is it not disgusting that most people are ignorant wheel-runners in life? On the other hand, taking the lenses off would certainly blind a lot of people. And, unfortunately, I don't think time will force people to see clearly either. :( No hope for truth or reality.

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  5. Anonymous1:23 AM

    Not sure how the other commenters before me came to this blog but I did so searching for information about depressive realism.

    I guess one thing I have not seen much information on is how depressive realists (DRs) deal with life. I mean, the "normal" folks kinda live their fantasies to some extent. Do DRs have fantasies that they act out in other ways other than living them? Personally I tend to daydream a lot about great things I'd be doing as some great person and I also read a lot of pop books on subjects my DR tells me I'll never be good at. So as a DR I don't kid myself on what I really am or can accomplish but I do treat myself to frequent excursions to fantasyland. :) I wonder if many DRs have similar ways of dealing with reality.

    In a way I'm proud to be a DR even if it kinda handicaps me in this world. Being able to see things as they are doesn't mean we will always only see the bad stuff. It also means we get to see the good in things that others may not notice due to their propensity to view things through a distorted lens. And being able to see things as they really are means that we have chance of accomplishing goals that truly matter and have a real impact. My own experience has been that many people will do a job or task in a mediocre way but put way more effort on presenting it to others so that it looks good. I can usually see through all that BS. But when I do a job I do it to the best of my ability and measure it objectively I frequently catch people in a state of surprise or shock when they realize how far I've actually taken it. When people are too surprised to open their mouths and spit out the usual cheap compliments you know you've done something outstanding. :)

    So I dunno, sometimes I kinda like being a realist, even if it does mean putting up with a constant swell of bull-shit artists.

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  6. I agree with Putnam; a lot of depressed people probably do have a better grip on reality than a lot of not-depressed people do.

    That doesn't negate that being depressed is counterproductive to mental health, and I don't think depressive realism seeks to prevent depressed individuals from seeking treatment.

    It is possible to have a firm grip on reality and not be depressed at the same time.

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  7. Anonymous4:44 PM

    I tend to agree with the theory that "depressed" people often have a more accurate vision of reality, but I don't condone the supposition of these studies that mild positive delusions are healthy and even necessary for a couple of reasons.

    1) How can you not feel disconcerted knowing your comfort is rooted in something unreal? This notion is absolutely repulsive to me, and, in my opinion, not at all indicative of mental health, but in fact just the opposite. Teaching people to maintain mild delusions to stay comfortable might even cause a constant sense of discomfort because your beliefs and your reality are not in accord, and so the process might be counterproductive to its aim.

    2)More importantly, these studies suppose that the only solution for "depression" is to lie to yourself to wave this depression away. Because this depression rests in some real observations, how can it ever truly be "waved away"? These studies fail to mention a very real cure: pursuing meaningful action. A depressed person would be better served to find his passion and actually hone a real skill than to cultivate delusions about his skill levels. Doing such work wouldn't negate "negative" observations, but it would quieten them, replace them with something of worth that doesn't deny reality.

    Basically I completely disagree with any notion that claims denying reality, even in a mild, supposedly harmless way, is a cure.

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  8. Anonymous2:24 PM

    I'm enjoying this discussion. Just learned about DR a few hours ago. I few things...

    Chicken and the egg. so far, everything i read seems to come from the point of view that depressed people have realistic thoughts vs people who see things more realistically eventually become depressed. I am not "yet" depressed, or if so, mildly so. but i have been studying/thinking/feeling a lot over the past year due to a feeling of having no meaning and purpose and got a health diagnosis that has effectively reduced that great pacifier hope... "i have decades left, i'm sure i'll figure it out or something will come up." the more i learn and think and see clearly, the less i get out of normal life.

    most things seem to point toward some delusion being helpful. first, i agree with a post above that if you delude yourself but know that you are, that won't work. i think it would have to be some real delusion. most concluded that some good delusion is a healthy thing. believing that there is a god or that there is some meaning out there or just concluding that some illusion is necessary, so i'm going to do it. Leaves me with the santa claus problem. even if believing in santa would make my life better, now that i have learned enough about it, there is absolutely no way i can do it at this point. what are the solutions from here.

    i can clearly see that i used to think and feel that i was more important in the world, to people. that there might be something bigger out there. that i was making more of a difference. that when the two year old next door came and gave me a hug that she really loved me vs a more programmed action that she was working her mom to get out of having to take her nap. it was a happier and more "meaningful" world then. not that i can't realistically see the positive and the good. it's just that much of it was my projections, as it is for most of us in the early part of life and as i get more realistic, it takes away more of these projections.

    so if once you see things more realistically, there is no way back to "believing", is the only way forward changing our reality to being meaningful, good, happy? is there some mental tricks to help us see reality differently. and no, LSD doesn't count.

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